tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post3195934185014382612..comments2024-01-28T22:16:50.852-06:00Comments on Mr. Dilettante’s Neighborhood: Suing Your Way into St. AnthonyMr. Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-5667976024163795032012-06-15T09:01:28.754-05:002012-06-15T09:01:28.754-05:00Charlie,
Thanks for stopping by and for the clari...Charlie,<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by and for the clarification. I'm pretty sure you're right about the churches -- St. Charles Borromeo is right on the border with Nordeast and Nativity Lutheran is on Silver Lake Road.Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-88409157205587190802012-06-15T08:01:32.196-05:002012-06-15T08:01:32.196-05:00Night Writer may be thinking of St. Anthony Park.
...Night Writer may be thinking of St. Anthony Park.<br /><br />I reviewed the city's zoning ordinances, since they were cited as the reason for the change, although the news stories didn't pinpoint specific zoning objections. It looks like the city did follow its code in making the decision.<br /><br />The light industrial zone where the building is located does allow "meeting halls" under a permitted conditional use, meaning the city might approve a specific application. Churches are not mentioned under that section.<br /><br />They are mentioned under residential zoning, but also as a conditional use.<br /><br />There appear to be only two churches in the city and several cemeteries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-23311557896259564982012-06-14T19:08:23.292-05:002012-06-14T19:08:23.292-05:00Dredd Scott would like a word with you.
Right. Pr...<i>Dredd Scott would like a word with you.</i><br /><br />Right. Problem part one.<br /><br /><i>So would some medical marijuana patients.</i><br /><br />Right. Problem part two.<br /><br />Now throw in Kelo. Mix well.Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-89320719097640501082012-06-14T18:12:32.647-05:002012-06-14T18:12:32.647-05:00So would some medical marijuana patients.So would some medical marijuana patients.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799024060528185282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-58862855598612844902012-06-14T17:54:31.136-05:002012-06-14T17:54:31.136-05:00I wrote about this case because the dispute raises...<b> I wrote about this case because the dispute raises some very interesting questions that we need to answer, especially concerning whether or not the federal government's power trumps local decisionmaking.</b><br /><br />Dredd Scott would like a word with you.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-68854679546031286822012-06-14T17:45:56.817-05:002012-06-14T17:45:56.817-05:00As to the question of "Should you hold the St...<i>As to the question of "Should you hold the St. Anthony government responsible for disparaging remarks made in a public forum?" ...well, yes, if there is good reason to believe that the city is making decisions in response to such remarks (or the sentiments behind them.)</i><br /><br />I disagree -- in this case, citizens who came to the public forum said some nasty things. It wasn't anyone on the St. Anthony city council.<br /><br />I wrote about this case because the dispute raises some very interesting questions that we need to answer, especially concerning whether or not the federal government's power trumps local decisionmaking.Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-63333894794465658682012-06-14T16:56:03.398-05:002012-06-14T16:56:03.398-05:00Well, it seems that it would clearly hinge on whet...Well, it seems that it would clearly hinge on whether the standards for land use are being applied equitably or not. If it appears that they were not (and I'm not opining on that either way, not enough info) then legal action at the federal level would be be appropriate, because that would be a violation of federal law (the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act mentioned in the article.) <br /><br />As to the question of "Should you hold the St. Anthony government responsible for disparaging remarks made in a public forum?" ...well, yes, if there is good reason to believe that the city is making decisions in response to such remarks (or the sentiments behind them.) <br /><br />But it isn't clear to me either way whether that is the case.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799024060528185282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-25037406078864317152012-06-14T14:27:37.867-05:002012-06-14T14:27:37.867-05:00The town just north of me denied a building permit...The town just north of me denied a building permit to a Lutheran church a number of years back. So they built outside of city limits. It's their right and I don't have a problem with it. Nor do I have a problem with St. Anthony telling the mosque builders to look elsewhere. Unless of course one wants to make the argument that the city has no permitting rights period.W.B. Picklesworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03187309512838841997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-83669829816240784852012-06-14T10:13:58.667-05:002012-06-14T10:13:58.667-05:00NW,
I know there’s a certain percentage of U of M...NW,<br /><br />I know there’s a certain percentage of U of M professors in St. Anthony, but it’s not a big part of the population. As for the agent provocateur idea, that certainly is possible. The population in St. Anthony skews significantly older, since a lot of people who live there have been there for a very long time, although you are starting to see some churn.<br /><br />Brian,<br /><br />Not to my knowledge.Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-24775403381241275902012-06-14T09:52:46.853-05:002012-06-14T09:52:46.853-05:00Has St. Anthony ever rejected a building permit fo...Has St. Anthony ever rejected a building permit for a church?Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799024060528185282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19838051.post-50954666210909558352012-06-14T09:32:46.058-05:002012-06-14T09:32:46.058-05:00IIRC, doesn't St. Anthony have a large percent...IIRC, doesn't St. Anthony have a large percentage of university professors and such types? (I was looking into the demographics a few years ago when considering moving my mom up here). Their prejudice is generally much more subtle, if not any less virulent. Still, this is kind of an odd situation and one or two loud voices - especially the senstational ones - can skew the perception of a meeting. It kind of makes me wonder if the reactionary comments were from a true "islamophobe", or from an agent provacateur looking to lay some groundwork for a suit (which would require the Islamic community expected their application to be denied - and the story suggests that up until the meeting this was not the case).Night Writernoreply@blogger.com