Monday, February 24, 2020

Bernie

My take on Bernie Sanders, as of today:

  • At this point, he is asking for support.
  • If he gets it and then wins the White House, he will stop asking.
  • Trump has endured a "resistance" for the duration of his presidency, even though he was (and remains) unlikely to do anything that will really transform the way our country is governed. Of any politician out there who needs a "resistance" arrayed against him, it's Bernie. Would that happen, would our well-appointed functionaries inside the Beltway resist him, or make his dreams come true? 

5 comments:

3john2 said...

Bernie is a bigger threat to the oligarchs and deep state than Trump, and Trump was been scary enough to them. They felt pretty safe in their "resistance", though. If Bernie wins (and the election gives him enough votes in the House and Senate), he is the real threat. And when faced with this, historically, these types of folks either co-opt, or are co-opted. I wonder how they'll react this time to preserve what they have.

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John said...

f elected I don't believe he will sweep into the WH with a unified Congress behind him. The deep state will do what it has always done, resist any change that upsets their applecarts, but his followers and fanatics will be (for the most part) watching from the outside.

While the media won't attack him as they've done with Trump, I am not sure Bernie has either the executive experience or a corp of experienced political advisors to fill all his top cabinet posts to implement an effective (socialist) Executive Branch. We've seen with President Trump's swinging door how important some of those key positions are for governing when Congress is stalemated. Without the right people in those key roles who forces the inertia of bureaucracy off dead center?

He, like AOC, will make a lot of noise but accomplish very little. Hw will be far less effective than Obama.

Fortunately for my nights, I'm not losing much sleep over this since I think Sanders' nomination does more to destroy the DNC than the nation. With all the communist baggage he drags behind him any rational person will see President Trump as a better choice. The risk is after these past 20 years I'm not completely confident we have that many rational people left.


IMO, I think he has a snowballs chance of actually winning because the people he appeals to will be only lightly affected by any swings in the stock market/economy.

3john2 said...

“Better mad with the rest of the world than wise alone.”
― Baltasar Gracián

Petercorp said...

If, and only if Bernie won the nomination, and then won the general election, would he be a real concern. It looks like he has a chance to win that. But he'd need not only everyone who voted for Hillary to vote for him. But also everyone of his Bernie Brat supporters to get out and vote for him instead of staying home, voting for Trump, or voting Green or Libertarian like they did in 2016.

He will not get anything done if he's elected as the POTUS. He will not have enough support from the Dems. And he damn sure isn't getting any support from the other side of an aisle. I'm not sure what the process is to overturn an executive order issued by a president without looking it up again for the first time in years. But we'll all get a chance to see exactly what that'll look like as it will happen.

The Dems could very well be left without a choice but to align everyone against Bern and the boys. It would have to include Warren, but even I was very wrong about her after she showed her true colors over the past several months. It's surprising what you find out about someone once they muck up and you feel the need to do a lot of research on a candidate. But it was really easy with Bernie Brats doing it already.

At least the establishment can keep Trump in line. No one can keep an absolutist from doing what they're going to do. As much I take issue with the absolutism on the right, it's not as bad as it is with the liberals. Bernie Brats aren't growing up quickly enough. And they can't be allowed to keep on holding the Dems, and the rest of the country hostage with ridiculous demands.

Not to mention Bernie doesn't have anywhere near enough support to have what it'll take to win back the Midwest. Wisconsin may have turned Red, Iowa would be difficult to win, Ohio is redder than Wisconsin, Pennsylvania would be a lost cause, Trump would probably take Minnesota, and Michigan would be a too close to call contest. There aren't enough young people to win most of those contests, and I'm sure that we could find someone still around from the McGovern Campaign to ask. I'm not sure who you'd ask if there are enough Hispanics, and Women who are black for vistory. Obama?