Saturday, October 31, 2020

il miglior fabbro

 Writing at, of all places, Newsweek, Thomas Krannawitter gets to the nut of this election:

Arguably, the most important reason to reelect Donald Trump in 2020 is to remind Americans how elections should be decided. Right now, there are two large groups who think they—not us—should decide elections in America: violent, rioting, vandalizing mobs of progressives, and millions of unelected bureaucrats who now form what early progressives called the "permanent government."

Both need to learn a lesson. For the violent mobs: Elections should be decided by ballots, not threatening fellow citizens with bullets. We will not stand for it and you only strengthen our resolve.

Threats of violence if Trump wins are sufficient reason to vote for him.

To boot, unelected progressive bureaucrats—public employees, servants of the people—had the audacity to use the power of our government in an attempt to overturn our election results in 2016 simply because one of their own did not win.

Enough.

More, much more actually at the link. Read the whole thing. 

14 comments:

Unknown said...

Three on my feed who are diehard libertarians who always vote third party have posted this column. All three have declared for Trump as a result of reading this.

They haven't turned GOP, or even Trumpian... It's just they see a larger threat.


Gino

Paul said...

The premise of this guy's column is so ironic as DT has been fear-mongering before he got in to office and then in to his term of office. Remember his Inauguration address? Talk about dark and foreboding! And then there are the neo-Nazis, the militias, the Supremicists and the other white boy crazies who are the ones carrying out the variety of mass shootings. And we are supposed to be afraid of progressives? Really?!

And DT wants the polling places watched by his true believers and has mentioned that they are watching PA. Oh, and did you see the Trump Train waving their flags and arms while surrounding a Biden bus in TX? The FBI is now investigating that one.

If you are going to point out the violence of the left, you sure as hell need to point out the violence on the right. But this guy does not want to do that because, frankly he is blinded by the DT mystique. His column is so fawning that it could be read at the Republican National Convention. And his statements about DT's patriotism and business acumen are laughable. Again, it may be that I am watching a different movie, but this guy is so illogical that I think his next job should be writing Trump's speeches.

Unknown said...

Bless your heart.

Paul said...

And bless your patronizing comments. Maybe you need to eat some paint chips...

Mr. D said...

If you are going to point out the violence of the left, you sure as hell need to point out the violence on the right.

I live in the Twin Cities. I've been to Lake Street and the George Floyd memorial. I have seen the destruction in those corridors. There have been repeats in any number of major American cities, and some less than major cities. For Biden to win the election, he has to win the suburbs and the "mostly peaceful protests" don't play in the suburbs. The news media here have bent over backwards to find right-wing instigators of the violence, but they've only found two out of the hundreds of violent actors on the streets of the Twin Cities. You haven't heard much more about the Whitmer plot in Michigan because it turns out some of the guys were Bernie Bros. And no one has seen the tiki torch guys since Charlottesville.

The Dems are panicking because the expected early vote totals are not coming in the way they'd planned. A lot of the early voters are actually coming in for Trump, and there's no evidence the election day voters are going to swing to Biden. Iowa is gone -- the Des Moines Register said as much today. Michigan may be gone. Pennsylvania may be gone -- go look at the crowds Trump attracted in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin and Minnesota could both be headed back to Trump as well -- Trump was in both places for a reason and the local ad buys for both Biden and Tina Smith here are begging people to vote on Tuesday. There's a reason for that -- the DFL does not have the Iron Range any more, and while the DFL is strong within the 494/694 loop, they are quite worried about what's happening further out. Minnesota is in play. Meanwhile, your map had North Carolina and Georgia in the Biden column. That's not going to happen. Arizona appears to be headed back to Trump.

I think you know this, but as a reminder, it's awfully difficult to unseat an incumbent president. It's only happened twice in our lifetimes. Carter was the weakest incumbent in modern presidential history, and HW Bush didn't seem to have his heart in it and lost in a three-way race. This race is mano a mano -- Trump is everywhere drawing huge crowds and Biden can barely muster the strength to stay out on the hustings. Biden is a horrible candidate. The Dems needed someone who looked the part and had the physical stamina and intellectual wherewithal to compete. Biden has neither.

Unknown said...

Here in CA Trump caravans happen every day in every county. I passed two already today.

In a state Trump isn't expected to carry. The Trump spirit is strong.

Paul said...

I always love the "media bending over backwards to find right-wing conspirators" argument when they willingly show up all the time. They show up wearing weapons all the time and sound like the nut jobs they are. I am not sure what is up with you all, but you need to get out of your conservative media bubble and start reading what is really out there. I have been pushing back on the Fox News/Far Right/One America News/Conservative Christian/Breitbart/Power Line/Quanon reporting for over 5 years now. All I see is conspiracy theories, false information and a reality that is not based on fact or in many times, reality. First it was Benghazi, then Clinton emails, then the deep state, the impeachment was not real, then the Durham Investigation and now Hunter Biden. Y'all need to give it a break!

The suburbs are not worried about the protests at all. Nor are they loving the law and order message because they see DT's jackboots coming out and pounding on people. And people realize that the causes the "violent and America-hating" Left are marching for are things they believe in. The right-wingers try this argument that these protests are Biden's America when it is occurring in Trump's world. America does not believe in DT's thuggery any more than they believe the end of COVID-19 is just around the corner.

We have had protests in Portland here as well and the coverage of the protests was so skewed by Fox News, et al. because that is there job. One of my sons took part in the protests and was there a few times during the peaceful time of the protests with one time being tear gassed by the police for no reason and given no warning. My wife is a parole officer and we have seen the police, legal and justice process very up front and there is indeed much that needs to be changed. Oh, and while we are at let's talk about 2 of the Proud Boys that started the fire at the Minneapolis Police Station.

Regarding the tiki-torch bearers, Unite The Right, you need to get up to speed on them as well. 4 of them pleaded guilty in May 2019, admitting that they "collectively pushed, punched, kicked, choked, head-butted, and otherwise assaulted several individuals, resulting in a riot." Also, the asshole who rammed in to a peaceful protestor and killed her pleaded guilty to 29 federal hate crimes in a plea agreement to avoid the death penalty in this trial The media did not need to find them as they were so emboldened by their new fascist leader that they willingly showed their faces to the world. Then when they were humiliated on social media they whined like little bitches.

And I have no idea what you are talking about with the Whitmer plot people being Bernie Bro's. Maybe you need to read this article where one of the lines is: "First, the case is still very much in the news." https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/21/viral-image/looking-ideologies-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-suspect/ Again, please get out of your conservative media circle!

I also have no clue how the crowd size argument figures out here. If you want we can compare DT's rallies to the people marching against gun violence, against police brutality, against racism, etc. and his rallies will look small - just like his Inauguration crowd size vs Obama's crowd. And those marchers are sure as hell not voting for the Orange Man. There will always be the Trumpbulican true believers that will believe any idiotic thing that comes out of his mouth and follow him like cultists. We already proved in the last election that they are not the majority of America as Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

Paul said...

Continuation of last post: And you sound pretty definitive about Biden not winning North Carolina and Georgia. Saying, "that is not going to happen" sounds a little bold at this point in the game. I am not saying for sure Biden is going to win anything which is why we called it "a prediction". HW Bush lost because votes were siphoned off by Ross Perot and Carter lost because of the economy, inflation and the hostage crises. DT should not even be this close, but his denial of reality and his willingness to let people die for his own glory is what is costing him. Plus, he is just a complete psychotic asshole. Time will tell who is correct, who was not and who was even close.

Mr. D said...

I live in Minneapolis. I know what’s happening here. You’re not on the scene. I do not presume to know what is happening in Portland because I am not able to see it.

Your comment on the tiki guys actually proves my point. People who committed crimes were prosecuted. They are not on the scene.

On Whitmer, you cite an article from 10 days ago. In a world of 2-3 news cycles a day, that’s an eternity.

Of course the size of the crowds matters in a campaign; people are coming out to see their candidates. It matters because enthusiastic people come out. Hatred is a motivator, but positive support matters more. And Trump has it. Watch and see.

Paul said...

On Whitmer, here you go! 3 hours ago. And you never proved your point about them being Bernie Bro's. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/11/01/michigan-kidnapping-plot-coronavirus-lockdown-whitmer/?arc404=true

Regarding the Unite the Right a-holes, they are still around and out there putting out their poison. And this was just at the end of May, 2020. Things are still happening. https://www.nbc29.com/2020/05/26/federal-judge-issues-thousands-dollars-penalties-unite-right-rally-participants/

I have many friends that lived right in that Minneapolis neighborhood and I have talked with a lot of them about the damage there. So, please let's not be dismissive about what I do or do not know. Most of my friends (of all different races) were sad to see the violence and destruction, but many of them understood the anger that people have regarding the police there. The precinct where Chauvin is from is where the misfit cops go that have been recirculated around Mpls. It is full of cops who have no business being out in the community.

Lastly, have you listened to Trump's speeches or seen him dance like an Oompa-Loompa?! He laughs and makes disgusting comments about how Biden will take away this and that and the suburbs a war zone. There is nothing positive about his messages - nor are they based in reality. Biden at least talks about reality and recognizes science. We will see who is right and who is wrong in 2 days.

Mr. D said...

Indeed we will.

Unknown said...

I don't believe the polls as reported.

I still remember the exit polling reports of 08, and how the media was found to have attempted to manipulate them to drive the Bush vote downward.
There is history that polls are not reported honestly.

These crowds for Trump.. are at OMG level. That matters if the votes are counted honestly.
I don't believe they will be.

In any democracy, those who count the votes have more power than those who cast them.

Gino

Paul said...

Gino, You need to get out of your conspiracy world. There was no evidence of the media attempting to manipulate the vote downward. Plus it would have been McCain and not Bush running against Obama in 2008.

And the polls have been historically accurate in other years as I have viewed them and it was the way I have been able to predict most of the Presidential elections correctly - with the one exception being the last one. If you want to talk about the modern era, we can go back to Truman-Dewey, but I do not think that we need to do so.

And again, the only one looking at crowd size is DT because he never got love from his father.

And we are not even going to go down the road about the votes being counted paranioa.

Petercorp said...

Pizzagate is real